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Post subject: AMD quad core CPUs  Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 9:58 pm |
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 10:59 pm |
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AMD is way too late, sadly.
They ruled the market when they shipped their Athlon 64.
But when Intel came with their Core 2 duo.. Bye AMD.
The question is how AMD's new CPU's does. I dont see them taking too much intel marketshare.
But i think that again when intel ships the 45nm cpu's, AMD is gonna be the small ones again.
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 11:25 pm |
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Chadk=GCHQ= wrote: AMD is way too late, sadly.
They ruled the market when they shipped their Athlon 64.
But when Intel came with their Core 2 duo.. Bye AMD.
The question is how AMD's new CPU's does. I dont see them taking too much intel marketshare.
But i think that again when intel ships the 45nm cpu's, AMD is gonna be the small ones again.
Was reading about that earlier funnily enough. But yeah, they'll probibally give AMD another run for their money in the market. I'm happy to buy Intel CPUs now concidering they made their CPU prices reasonable.  _________________ 
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 11:25 pm |
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Chadk=GCHQ= wrote: But i think that again when intel ships the 45nm cpu's, AMD is gonna be the small ones again. I don't doubt that you're probably right w.r.t. to desktop market share, but try reading the article properly! Quote: However, unlike Intel's forthcoming Penryn products, the K10 architecture will still be fabricated on a 65nm process. According to AMD, this is because the total amount of cache on the processors will be lower than that on Intel's processors, freeing up enough room to fit a 65nm quad-core CPU in a single package.
The main reason for switching to a smaller process is to fit more onto a wafer, not to invoke magical hobbit 733tness  Still, a lot of Intel's performance does come from large caches - to compensate for a lack of an IMC. _________________  The Pancreas of S.T.F.U. | Never take life too seriously - nobody gets out alive anyway. Disco_jim: um..... I have no excuse. | Chips: Thank the Beef | Rev Dr: Beef, I think i wee'd a little
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Chadk
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 7:34 am |
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LeBeourfCurtaine wrote: Chadk=GCHQ= wrote: But i think that again when intel ships the 45nm cpu's, AMD is gonna be the small ones again. I don't doubt that you're probably right w.r.t. to desktop market share, but try reading the article properly! Quote: However, unlike Intel's forthcoming Penryn products, the K10 architecture will still be fabricated on a 65nm process. According to AMD, this is because the total amount of cache on the processors will be lower than that on Intel's processors, freeing up enough room to fit a 65nm quad-core CPU in a single package. The main reason for switching to a smaller process is to fit more onto a wafer, not to invoke magical hobbit 733tness Still, a lot of Intel's performance does come from large caches - to compensate for a lack of an IMC. But intel uses High-K dielectrics for their chips = win win win..
Factor 10 less leakage, and better Capactiance.
And 45nm will allow the price to be lower, compared to the old technologies, because of that it fits better on a wafer, for instance.
I used to be an AMD fan. But intel is way better.
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 11:55 am |
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Chadk=GCHQ= wrote: AMD is way too late, sadly.
They ruled the market when they shipped their Athlon 64.
But when Intel came with their Core 2 duo.. Bye AMD.
The question is how AMD's new CPU's does. I dont see them taking too much intel marketshare.
But i think that again when intel ships the 45nm cpu's, AMD is gonna be the small ones again.
Without AMD intel would have a virtually full monopoly on the Market, which would mean high prices and slower release dates. I bet we'd be at least a couple of years behind where we are now. AMD have made bit of a loss recently though which is not good news though...
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/2007/04/19/amd_reports_611_million_loss/_________________ 
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 3:18 pm |
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Noooo 
AMD has always been the gamers favourite.....just shows how much things can change in the computer hardware world. _________________  
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 3:32 pm |
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Seric=GCHQ= wrote: Noooo AMD has always been the gamers favourite.....just shows how much things can change in the computer hardware world. AMD will be back, don't worry. _________________  [SNIGG] Sniggerdly | Ask me about how awesome I am at EvE |
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 6:41 pm |
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Just remember that their chips are cheaper _________________ The Pancreas of S.T.F.U. | Never take life too seriously - nobody gets out alive anyway. Disco_jim: um..... I have no excuse. | Chips: Thank the Beef | Rev Dr: Beef, I think i wee'd a little
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Post subject: nope Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 6:35 pm |
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Quote: Noooo
AMD has always been the gamers favourite.....just shows how much things can change in the computer hardware world.
wrong
amd used to suck, k6 k62 kg3 all owned by intel for fps
its just the natural cycle intel then amd then intel then amd etc etc _________________ 
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