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Chadk
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Post subject: Is vista really secure?  Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 2:14 pm |
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Mike=GCHQ=
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 3:46 pm |
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hmmmm... give it time
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frying_fish
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 6:10 pm |
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Completely useless page of statistics. Whilst it shows vista is better than XP in that less have been disclosed, it still shows the majority of its disclosed bugs as unfixed.
Compare that to the linux options. Also compare the amount of time it generally takes for a fix to come out on a linux product with the time it takes for windows (patch tuesday anyone?)
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Chadk
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 6:35 pm |
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frying_fish wrote: Completely useless page of statistics. Whilst it shows vista is better than XP in that less have been disclosed, it still shows the majority of its disclosed bugs as unfixed.
Compare that to the linux options. Also compare the amount of time it generally takes for a fix to come out on a linux product with the time it takes for windows (patch tuesday anyone?)
Again, that is pure FUD.
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Shrek
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 6:56 pm |
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anyone who believes that vista will end spyware, viruii, worms etc is mad.
in time everturally every windows machine will be vista, and they will contain billions of pounds worth of info. and some one will make it their life mission to steal it all.... and in time they will.
yes in the first 12months there maybe very few vista security leaks, but that is beacuse no one wants/needs to hack it yet, there isnt the money or info worth stealling.
till your next door neighbour has his credit card details on a vista machine then vista will be safe (as in there will be no serious attacks). as soon as its worth the effort then it will be done.
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happyslappy
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Post subject: crap Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 7:27 pm |
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its marketing crap - althoguh its true it only cause people havent work out the holes in it yet
in 2 ears if i remember ill bump this post and my how we will laugh  _________________ 
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elbow=GCHQ=
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 7:36 pm |
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umm...wheres the undisclosed, fixed and unfixed then?
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Chadk
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Post subject: Re: crap Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 9:38 pm |
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happyslappy wrote: its marketing crap - althoguh its true it only cause people havent work out the holes in it yet in 2 ears if i remember ill bump this post and my how we will laugh Sure, its used for marketing. But the numbers right. _________________ Codito Ergo Sum | Even i, who have no clue about social life
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Post subject: Re: crap Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 9:52 pm |
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Chadk=GCHQ= wrote: happyslappy wrote: its marketing crap - althoguh its true it only cause people havent work out the holes in it yet in 2 ears if i remember ill bump this post and my how we will laugh Sure, its used for marketing. But the numbers right. that doesn't mean they aren't misleading.
I could say "People bought x times as many IBM clones as BBC electrons in the last year" - sure the numbers are right, but they mean naff all! You can believe what you see in a graph, but it don't mean shit usually. Start reading any UK national newspaper and you'll see what I mean.
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Tao
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 10:00 pm |
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lies, damn lies and statisics.
I'm sure people will be finding more vunerabilities in Viista soon, as/ if it gets taken up more there be more reasons to crack it.
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happyslappy
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Post subject: chadk Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 10:19 pm |
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Quote: Sure, its used for marketing. But the numbers right.
take ur head out of bills arse and read it again - spelt worng mind you 
im not disputing the % at all - everyone i know who tried vista was back on xp after 1 hour
i know zero people one that uses it for server - infact you`d be stupid to with 2003 / xp code have matured
im all for progress but it isnt ready yet
the holes will be found soon and then the flood gates will open
there will be loads of spyware and virus`s that guest users can cripple the system with in a year _________________
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 10:27 pm |
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tbh
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 10:29 pm |
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Tao=GCHQ= wrote: lies, damn lies and statisics.
sums it up really 
Plus, I dont think I've ever really seen an impartial report on it, or will do
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Post subject: Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 9:22 pm |
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i love Vista, better than every other OS except Linux . It is from a user point of view far better, and they say the same thing about every MS OS yet 95 % of PCs use MS OS's. Just incase u dont like crappy OS 10 or are not a fan of Vista theres always Linux.
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Post subject: Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 10:51 pm |
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ONE wrote: i love Vista, better than every other OS except Linux My hero  _________________ The Pancreas of S.T.F.U. | Never take life too seriously - nobody gets out alive anyway. Disco_jim: um..... I have no excuse. | Chips: Thank the Beef | Rev Dr: Beef, I think i wee'd a little
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