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Post subject: Downloaded Debain last night but....  Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 5:37 pm |
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Okies, here it goes. Was gona use VMWare... But I dunno which version to use, also... do I need to create a new partition in the Linux file system format ... or will VMWare do that for me? Because everytime I do something with partitions (usually Partition Magic I use) I end up with a hard drive massacre where it does stupid things (like tries to convert the entire hard drive... not the specified patition) 
Lastly... I presume I just mount the image and install from that? Last time I installed debian it didn't work properly... had to use the console to get certain things working. (such as the GUI)  _________________ 
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Post subject: firstly Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 5:54 pm |
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if its your first outing into linux dont use debian - its not a firsting outing linux by any means and although its pakage management is the best, your still going to have a struggle because the default cfs are not configured more most packages ( anoyoing at first - great later on )
debian is a cmd line install as well and although it will run x and the desktops - default is gnome
debian also install a minimal set of packages - ie the server running this forum was about 30mb before apache2 and sql where installed
so if you dont know what your doing your going to have a hard run to even get things going to install the rest of the stuff you want
if you do want it - etch is the latest
once you have set aside some space on a partition with vmware the linux install will do the rest as regards to ext3 - recomended for beginners
hope this helps
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 7:09 pm |
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I've seen debian before to, im also sort of the same with starting linux.
I've used ubuntu and red hat, is FREE BSD anygood?
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Post subject: Re: firstly Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 6:28 pm |
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happyslappy wrote: if its your first outing into linux dont use debian - its not a firsting outing linux by any means and although its pakage management is the best, your still going to have a struggle because the default cfs are not configured more most packages ( anoyoing at first - great later on )
debian is a cmd line install as well and although it will run x and the desktops - default is gnome
debian also install a minimal set of packages - ie the server running this forum was about 30mb before apache2 and sql where installed
so if you dont know what your doing your going to have a hard run to even get things going to install the rest of the stuff you want
if you do want it - etch is the latest
once you have set aside some space on a partition with vmware the linux install will do the rest as regards to ext3 - recomended for beginners
hope this helps
So yeah... umm... what would you reommend creating a new partition with? I have lots of space on my windows install partition. 
Say Partition Magic and I will hunt you down. (That program has given me total crappy results far too many times in the past. And I don't really want to install Windows [b]again[/i] because of some crappy program. Especially after I have Windows running just how I like it.. problem free and all the crappy stuff that everyone hates, destroyed. _________________
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 6:32 pm |
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You should be able to use windows built in partition manager.
Just create a blank partition and get the linux distro to format it on the install.
Start > Control Panel > Administrative Tools > Computer Management > Disk Management.
Never really used it before for partitions, thats if you can though 
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 6:37 pm |
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err....partition magic? I've used it for some pretty complicated manoeuvring of important data and it hasn't let me down....
bsd isn't linux
Ubuntu is good, its what I use on the infrequent occasions I actually use linux
course you could get *cough*linspire*cough* if you get really stuck...
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 6:37 pm |
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Stealth wrote: You should be able to use windows built in partition manager. Just create a blank partition and get the linux distro to format it on the install. Start > Control Panel > Administrative Tools > Computer Management > Disk Management. Never really used it before for partitions, thats if you can though I looked there already, doesn't support the type of file format I need. _________________
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 6:40 pm |
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Simon - [Kimck098] wrote: Stealth wrote: You should be able to use windows built in partition manager. Just create a blank partition and get the linux distro to format it on the install. Start > Control Panel > Administrative Tools > Computer Management > Disk Management. Never really used it before for partitions, thats if you can though I looked there already, doesn't support the type of file format I need. create it unallocated, the distro will do the rest
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 8:44 pm |
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elbow=GCHQ= wrote: Simon - [Kimck098] wrote: Stealth wrote: You should be able to use windows built in partition manager. Just create a blank partition and get the linux distro to format it on the install. Start > Control Panel > Administrative Tools > Computer Management > Disk Management. Never really used it before for partitions, thats if you can though I looked there already, doesn't support the type of file format I need. create it unallocated, the distro will do the rest I don't have any 'unallocated' space.
And I don't know how to create any. D: _________________
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 9:01 pm |
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Stealth wrote: is FREE BSD anygood?
It's great  Ubuntu is superior for patching, as it does it all itself, but FreeBSD is good to learn from and pretty much UNIX 
I'd go for the network install off of t'net, as it's a damn site quicker than downloading the ISO's and more up to date. _________________  The Pancreas of S.T.F.U. | Never take life too seriously - nobody gets out alive anyway. Disco_jim: um..... I have no excuse. | Chips: Thank the Beef | Rev Dr: Beef, I think i wee'd a little
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 9:27 pm |
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Damn 
I downloaded the ISO's i got it installed but was finding it hard to install gnome.
EDIT : Sorry for hijacking the thread btw 
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Post subject: debian Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 9:29 pm |
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dont install gnome - learn the command line
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Post subject: Re: debian Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 12:11 am |
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happyslappy wrote: dont install gnome - learn the command line
Agreed, Command Lines are far more useful. One name/word sums this up... puTTY_________________
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 2:33 am |
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So, I install VMWare onto a seperate NTFS Partition... and then install Linux using VMWare on the same partition?
If not... I presume 19GB Ext3 and 1GB Linux Swap will be sufficient? I'm not trying to dual boot here. _________________
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 3:18 am |
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You dont really need a new partition if your just using VMware, it will emulate it all for you.
Create a blank partition, then install the os on that partition.
It will format it for you.
Buuuut you don't wanna dual boot.
So just go with VMware.
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