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Mike=GCHQ=
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Post subject:  Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 11:57 pm |
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well i just worked out what was causing the single beeps, its the voltage going through the PCIE (whatever that is).
it was initially at 1.65, and i just raised it to 1.67 to stop it beeping...
so is there a reason that is the default or is it safe to do what i just did?
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ABIT KN9 SLI, nForce 570 SLI,Socket-AM2, DDR2, 2XGbLAN, Firewire, ATX, 2xPCI-Ex16
AMD Athlon 64 3800+ 2.4GHz Socket AM2, 512KB, BOXED w/fan
Antec Sonata II Miditower, Black w/450W PSU
Corsair TWIN2X 5400 DDR2, 2048MB PC5400 Kit w/two matched CM2X1024-5400C4 Dimm's
NEC DVD±RW burner, ND-3550A, 16x, Dual, Black OEM
Western Digital Caviar SE16 250GB SATA2 16MB 7200RPM
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Krusk
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 4:47 am |
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i sort of a have a constant and really annoying problem kind of the same,. i know what's up and know how to temp fiz it but not perm. when i start the p.c i get 1long 2 short beebs. i need to restrat and mess around with the graphics card until it's in nice and pushed in and upwards abit before it boots correctly. I dunno what messed it up but that' what fixes it until next morning i start and get the beeps again. cba to try and fix it for real but oh well.
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 10:12 am |
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just ur new gpu about to implode 
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Mike=GCHQ=
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 12:11 pm |
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i think its because my gpu requires a lot of power (7900GT)
and just the average gpu will not use as much voltage as this does, hense why ABIT default are slightly lower.
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Chips=GCHQ=
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 2:51 pm |
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Krusk wrote: i sort of a have a constant and really annoying problem kind of the same,. i know what's up and know how to temp fiz it but not perm. when i start the p.c i get 1long 2 short beebs. i need to restrat and mess around with the graphics card until it's in nice and pushed in and upwards abit before it boots correctly. I dunno what messed it up but that' what fixes it until next morning i start and get the beeps again. cba to try and fix it for real but oh well.
The diagnostic for one long beep and two short beeps sounds just like an "Award BIOS beep code" to me, and coupled with what you say - i represents the "Video card not found, or video card memory bad".
Seeing as re-seating your card means that it works, it sounds like your gfx card isn't seated correctly, or is literally "falling out" of its seating.
Check the screw that holds it into place with the slot plates, and ensure it's tightened up. Check that you have no other cards pushing or interferring with the gfx card, and that no cables are weighing down on top of it as well.
Something is dislodging your card, that something is most likely gravity.
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Chips=GCHQ=
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Post subject: Re: beep Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 2:56 pm |
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Mike =GCHQ= wrote: not sure about this..
have a beeping noise coming from my computer which is constant beep beep really really fast..
probly coming from the Mobo, (makes the same noise when i turn my pc on and ABIT loads with Temperatures/voltages. (but only once)
my suspicion is that it may be being caused by the plastic thing that piggies on the System Fan, as one of the 3 socket pins of the plastic things is a little bent and it comes a bit loose now and then.. (which i think comes from the front of the case so probly USB...
thats a guess though... if it is slightly loose would my computer be making that noise? / should i be worried if this beeping noise occurs?
wats the worst that could happen?
in urgent need of replacing the plastic clip thing? (which i don't think is easily accessible).
It has stopped beeping after i turn my pc off and push the plastic thing further in, next time it does it i will just start my pc up again see if it still does it.
It isn't temperature, my temps are fine.
As mentioned, high frequency beeping is a BIOS beep code,
On my manufacturer (ASUS) that indicates CPU overload or that the system is running at a lower frequency.
If you need help with these sorts of issues, I'd post at places like Alliance of Overclocking Arts (AOA) AOA Forums. They helped me out years ago when having trouble building my comp. In general they are friendly, as long as you give plenty of info when posting and get it in the right forum
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Mike=GCHQ=
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 3:02 pm |
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it's definitely the thing i mentioned, the voltage going over the 'software maxiumum limit' resulting in a warning beep to alert me, This value can be manually altered via software as in screenshot shown, the maximum limit default appears to be too low given the current value, so i bumped it up to a higher value before it beeps to warn me.
seems to kind of vary between 1.58 volts and 1.72 volts... so i just made my maximum 1.75
this is probly coz my 7900gt is a bit of a monster for requiring power sometimes
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 6:28 pm |
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Chips wrote:
Check the screw that holds it into place with the slot plates, and ensure it's tightened up. Check that you have no other cards pushing or interferring with the gfx card, and that no cables are weighing down on top of it as well.
Something is dislodging your card, that something is most likely gravity.
well yea it looks to be that way tried proping it up a bit but that didnt work too well. the screw are in and the power for it is also weighing it a bit down. What i dont get is when the comp is on it wrks fine never crashes or freezes even when it's been on for a couple of days. Only when it's been off i gett the problem Quite weird. _________________
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 9:01 am |
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Krusk wrote: Chips wrote:
Check the screw that holds it into place with the slot plates, and ensure it's tightened up. Check that you have no other cards pushing or interferring with the gfx card, and that no cables are weighing down on top of it as well.
Something is dislodging your card, that something is most likely gravity.
well yea it looks to be that way tried proping it up a bit but that didnt work too well. the screw are in and the power for it is also weighing it a bit down. What i dont get is when the comp is on it wrks fine never crashes or freezes even when it's been on for a couple of days. Only when it's been off i gett the problem Quite weird. Maybe some heat causes expansion of bits of metal, semi jamming it into place?
Gaffer tape ftw! not a recommended solution..
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 9:02 am |
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Mike =GCHQ= wrote: it's definitely the thing i mentioned, the voltage going over the 'software maxiumum limit' resulting in a warning beep to alert me, This value can be manually altered via software as in screenshot shown, the maximum limit default appears to be too low given the current value, so i bumped it up to a higher value before it beeps to warn me.
seems to kind of vary between 1.58 volts and 1.72 volts... so i just made my maximum 1.75
this is probly coz my 7900gt is a bit of a monster for requiring power sometimes
Weird, my card froze and locked up when it didn't get the required power to it.
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 10:56 am |
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nononono...
as far as i'm aware, this software on my pc only allows you to provide limits before it beeps, not restricting the actual values. It just appears that the manufacturers were being a bit girly when they decided to put default values between 1.35 and 1.65, when maybe more realistically for gamers they should have put it between 1.55 and 1.80 default with modern cards.
or maybe i am very mistaken and my card is juicing up a lot more voltage that neccessary
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 11:32 am |
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Mike =GCHQ= wrote: nononono...
as far as i'm aware, this software on my pc only allows you to provide limits before it beeps, not restricting the actual values. It just appears that the manufacturers were being a bit girly when they decided to put default values between 1.35 and 1.65, when maybe more realistically for gamers they should have put it between 1.55 and 1.80 default with modern cards.
or maybe i am very mistaken and my card is juicing up a lot more voltage that neccessary
You might wanna ask Gmar about those settings. The PCIe one looks to be more of an overclockers domain.
The ATX stuff is usually more to do with the beefyness of the card.
Prolly wrong tho 
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 7:54 pm |
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Thanks for the bigup there Firearms. Mike, I'd say your are spot on with your assessment. My personal research leads me to believe that overvolting or overclocking a PCIe bus is pointless as it has no effect on GPU speed. In the old days Video cards used to get all their power form the AGP bus so over volting here was recommended to increase stabilities at greater clock speeds. Much as we do with CPUs. Now days PCIe cards get most but not all of their power from the six pin connectors. Hense overvolting not really helping, doing so doesn't effect the GPU power at all. The only way to do this is with a scarey "volt mod", this is done much like flashing a bios, it replaces the cards firmware which explains to the card how much voltage the GPU (not interface) should use.
Mike, most people would just turn off the warning beeps completely, I'd say you did the right thing upping the warning level (bert!!!).
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 9:46 pm |
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