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Mike=GCHQ=
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Post subject:  Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 12:49 am |
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Rainbow Dave =GCHQ= wrote: Mike =GCHQ= wrote: Quote: They say use the credit card on open cores, blob on ones with spreaders  i'm a noob   i typed that for the record, and thanks for contributing to the thread  
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Ish The Fish
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 8:33 pm |
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Cliche wrote: Also, you can buy thermal paste remover from maplins in manchester (I know they stock em, because I've seen it). Its in a white bottle, citrus aroma. Just ask or go to components section I have/do use the above, and by gawd it does the job! Quick dab on (using a tissue), leave a min or 2 so it can do it's work... Then remove paste with greatest of ease using a clean tissue.  Cliche wrote: Remember the thermal paste is ONLY there to fill in the microsize pits on the mating metal sufaces of the cpu to the heatsink.
Anymore and it will insulate rather than aid transfer. Apply using an old credit card very, very thinly
Quite a few pastes actually have a spreader and 'guide' in them.
All the guide is, is just a bit of sticky back plastic (sounds like a Blue Peter job.. ) with the appropriate area of application cut out.
Not really much that hasn't been said before here, just elaborated a little more on some bits.
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Mike=GCHQ=
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 8:41 pm |
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i bought the arctic silver stuff that beef suggested over ebay today, just waiting for it to arrive in a few days, probly monday it will - my motherboard arrived this afternoon, hopefully this 1 will be ok.. but i doubt it
i didn't really wanna buy the paste remover, so i figure i will use some kind of alcohol at home to do that
white spirits right? a small drop on a tissue ?
Quote: CPU Core:
Use high-purity isopropyl alcohol or acetone and a bit of careful rubbing.
Do not use nail polish remover as it contains fragrance oils and other contaminants.
(If you use acetone, do a final cleaning with isopropyl alcohol.)
Heatsink:
Use xylene based products (Goof Off, some carburetor cleaners and many brake cleaners.), mineral spiritsm or high-purity isopropyl alcohol.
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Cliche
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 10:02 pm |
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Ish The Fish wrote: Cliche wrote: Also, you can buy thermal paste remover from maplins in manchester (I know they stock em, because I've seen it). Its in a white bottle, citrus aroma. Just ask or go to components section I have/do use the above, and by gawd it does the job! Quick dab on (using a tissue), leave a min or 2 so it can do it's work... Then remove paste with greatest of ease using a clean tissue. Cliche wrote: Remember the thermal paste is ONLY there to fill in the microsize pits on the mating metal sufaces of the cpu to the heatsink.
Anymore and it will insulate rather than aid transfer. Apply using an old credit card very, very thinly Quite a few pastes actually have a spreader and 'guide' in them. All the guide is, is just a bit of sticky back plastic (sounds like a Blue Peter job.. ) with the appropriate area of application cut out. Not really much that hasn't been said before here, just elaborated a little more on some bits. ooh - u get spreaders these days ? Technology has moved on ! _________________ My weekly run in Kinder Scout (17 miles, 2000ft above sea level)http://tinyurl.com/4hcpn
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corned_beef
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 10:19 pm |
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Mike =GCHQ= wrote: Quote: They say use the credit card on open cores, blob on ones with spreaders i don't know what that means exactly, i'm a noob Open core (you can see the core):
Heatspreader (aluminium cap over core to "spread" heat):
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Mike=GCHQ=
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 12:58 pm |
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so are there any good household examples of Quote: xylene based cleaner, (Goof Off and some carburetor cleaners) acetone, mineral spirits, or high-purity isopropyl alcohol.
as i thought i could avoid buying the stuff you get in the shop to cut costs
also, how much difference does it make? the surface of my heatsink and cpu are smooth, it just Looks dirty dry grease _________________ ----------------------------------------
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gemma=GCHQ=
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 2:13 pm |
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To be honest you are better off just popping it on and monitoring the temp to see if its ok. If so just get on and enjoy it. Much better than losing sleep over a couple of degrees C. If you were going for a record then it might matter but otherwise not. I give mine a good wipe with a cloth then apply compound with a credit card and pop the heat sink / waterblock on. I am getting a 200 - 250 MHz, overclock like that.
Just do it.
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Mike=GCHQ=
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 3:34 pm |
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i found some BnQ White Spirit in the garage so that will do the job i think..tissue or cotton swab or something
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Mike=GCHQ=
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 4:57 pm |
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just cleaned it
worked fine with white spirit
just waiting for the paste, 3/4 of a Ball Bearing is what the instructions read for Athlons on that site
should arrive monday and i'll be back gaming before tuesday, but actually..i start uni on Monday so might be busy with that...
and then i bet i have some other problem like the motherboard is being ghey again, or that i need to upgrade psu etc..regret going down the AM2 line and choosing the abit kn9 sli and the antec psu with building this machine _________________ ----------------------------------------
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gemma=GCHQ=
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 5:22 pm |
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Mike =GCHQ= wrote: just cleaned it worked fine with white spirit just waiting for the paste, 3/4 of a Ball Bearing is what the instructions read for Athlons on that site should arrive monday and i'll be back gaming before tuesday, but actually..i start uni on Monday so might be busy with that... and then i bet i have some other problem like the motherboard is being ghey again, or that i need to upgrade psu etc..regret going down the AM2 line and choosing the abit kn9 sli and the antec psu with building this machine Can't remember the details but isn't this more likely to be driver / bios related than the hardware. Maybe there are newer mobo drivers or a bios flash that could help.
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Mike=GCHQ=
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 5:31 pm |
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not as far as i'm concerned and many people on abit forums complaining about usb lockups/pcie voltages rising to 1.8 volts, random restarts, instabilities..
seems that after several writes at a new bios problems either appear or are not fixed
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2006/0 ... rd/10.html
final thoughts sum it up really, for the purpose it is advertised for it isn't satisfactory
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gemma=GCHQ=
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 10:51 pm |
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Mike =GCHQ= wrote: not as far as i'm concerned and many people on abit forums complaining about usb lockups/pcie voltages rising to 1.8 volts, random restarts, instabilities.. seems that after several writes at a new bios problems either appear or are not fixed http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2006/0 ... rd/10.htmlfinal thoughts sum it up really, for the purpose it is advertised for it isn't satisfactory likely to be a problem that lies within the hardware itself... omg thats terrible, annoying for you and suicidal for abit.
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 11:13 pm |
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HAvent Abit just come out of some sort of receivership
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Post subject: abit Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 11:54 pm |
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i know some people will jump up to defend them but imho and most at work abit = shit
they where good , i had and still have a abit bp6 mobo ( still in use ) - last good thing they did and also around the time of there problems , they got some cheapo capasators in that where reverse engineered - they where found to be crap to coin a frase
i know LOTS of poeple who have had troubles since around this time with this and that
new mobo - this and that no long a problem
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Quote: CPU Core:
Use high-purity isopropyl alcohol or acetone and a bit of careful rubbing.
Do not use nail polish remover as it contains fragrance oils and other contaminants.
(If you use acetone, do a final cleaning with isopropyl alcohol.) arsehole get a life - so the top of your cpu might be contaminated with 1 or 2 parts per million - feck even a thousand with a nice aromoa - ooo 0.1% loss in the effiency in cooling - ill pay 10 quid for the rip off shit instead. they see you coming [[/quote] _________________ 
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Post subject: Re: abit Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 12:02 am |
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happyslappy wrote: i know some people will jump up to defend them but imho and most at work abit = shit they where good , i had and still have a abit bp6 mobo ( still in use ) - last good thing they did and also around the time of there problems , they got some cheapo capasators in that where reverse engineered - they where found to be crap to coin a frase i know LOTS of poeple who have had troubles since around this time with this and that new mobo - this and that no long a problem also to quote Quote: CPU Core:
Use high-purity isopropyl alcohol or acetone and a bit of careful rubbing.
Do not use nail polish remover as it contains fragrance oils and other contaminants.
(If you use acetone, do a final cleaning with isopropyl alcohol.) arsehole get a life - so the top of your cpu might be contaminated with 1 or 2 parts per million - feck even a thousand with a nice aromoa - ooo 0.1% loss in the effiency in cooling - ill pay 10 quid for the rip off shit instead. they see you coming [ [/quote]
So your CPU smells of sugar and spice and all things nice?? 
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