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like i said, 5mhz core and 200 mhz from XT to XTX whereas the GTS to GTX is 32 processors, 75mhz core and 200mhz core.

if the XT is similar to the GTS then the XTX was never gonna be enough to keep up with the GTX, the spec just isnt there.

maybe if they could get the core up around 1Ghz and the GDDR4 to 1.5Ghz then it could be competative, but that will need 65nm and mental GDDR4. but could be done.

we will see

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If they did that, the hardware would be competative, but the price certainly wouldn't. :lol:

I'm happy with my GTS anyways. Runs anything I throw at it smoothly. 8)


look at the 8800Ultra, price isnt the concern (to a point), its all about some stupid kid walking into a shop and saying
"whats the fast card i can buy"
shop keeper "Nvidia... its £700"
kid "cant afford £700, do they make cheaper stuff"
shop keeper "sure, come over to our nVidia stand"

kid goes away with a mid range nvidia card (not worrying that an ATi mid range maybe better) as he beleives its made by the best company.

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I bought this card when the GTX was top. Couldn't afford the GTX and the GTS has given me good results that I'm happy with (especially now that they have fixed their god damned drivers!!) :evil:. I daresay the GTS will last me a while yet anyways. I'll probs need an upgrade in 1-2 years, possibly later depending on how the card holds up and doesn't ware out. :?

I still have a 4 year old 5700LE, supprised it's not gone kaputt yet, the Fan packed up, so just bolted a new one on there. > . >;;

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Nvidia hasnt been spanked

Even though I am troubled quite a bit by nvidias Vista drivers the ATI 2900 performance is below A 8800 GTS and with a terrible Performance per Watt ratio.

http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTM0MSwxNywsaGVudGh1c2lhc3Q=

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i was just about to post the exact same link, to be fair the 8800gts is an awesome card, but i hope when the 8900's come out ill get one, 7900-8900 upgrade will do me ;)

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i'm still hoping that 8800gts from amazon will go through....which it blatantly wont :roll:

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i'm still hoping that 8800gts from amazon will go through....which it blatantly wont :roll:


Was thinking the same thing mate.

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Wondering if a switch to ATi may be due, would it coexist with a 7800GT in the other slot (extra desktop only). Should do in theory. It's all a dream my car insurance is due.

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you can do that :? So i could get a 8800gts for my main moniter and use my current 7900gt to power my HDTV viewing pleasure?

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you can do that :? So i could get a 8800gts for my main moniter and use my current 7900gt to power my HDTV viewing pleasure?


Yeah that would be fine but what about mixing brands, two sets of drivers. I have run Nvidia with Matrox before (a long time ago using PCI) but not ATI and not in a modern system (PCIe). They should work ok but it'd be a risk. I'll probably eventually go with nvidia anyway but am curious.

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I wouldnt dare using both ATI and nvidia cards, because of the drivers. :?

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the drivers are rubish atm all alpha releases.

the current drivers are optimized for 3dmark, and if you look at the 3d mark scores, the XT is well ahead of the GTS and close to the GTX.

give it a few weeks for a beta or full release driver with a full set of optimizations and i think you will find the GTS has some more serious competition.

note im not saying this from a ATi fan boy view... look at my post about the XTX to see that.

i am interested in hardware, work for a hardware website, benchmark as a semi pro, so know some people.

the XT has more in the tank.

as for how much, only waiting will tell.

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Chadk=GCHQ= wrote:
I wouldnt dare using both ATI and nvidia cards, because of the drivers. :?


can be done...

did it with my 7800 pci-e and an Rage pci card

flashing vid card bios hax :twisted:

could be a little more interesting for day to day, rather than an hr in dos.

but still can be done

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