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 Post subject: sudden performance fail on my PC
 Post Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 6:38 am 
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About 2 -3 minutes after I start a game (any 3d game, online/offline), suddenly the frame rates drop to about 2 -3 fps. :x Then, after a minute, things back to normal, then slow again, etc.

This has just started within the last couple of days. I can't see anything running in background.

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- virus :?
- overheating (i hoovered through the grate, blew a chunk of dust off one of the cards, checked fans are running) :?
- memory/space/whatever thing :oops: (been alright in the past - seems plenty left on both drives) :?

Please tell me what you think it might be.

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 Post subject: Re: sudden performance fail on my PC
 Post Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 8:10 am 
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Just a thought, is anything in the machine overclocked?
I find that that often happens with mine if I run at anything other than stock speeds for the CPU and GPU.. think in my case it's down to a slightly dodgy motherboard.. :?

Have you tried running Task Manager while playing a game to see if the memory usage goes up and down? Or to monitor the CPU performance, see if it's maxed out?

You could try something like CoreTemp to look at the CPU temperatures:

htttp://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/

Have you installed any new software recently?

Done a virus scan?

Updated any hardware drivers?

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 Post subject: Re: sudden performance fail on my PC
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you could try the good old restor .... has ironed out some nastys in the past for me

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 Post subject: Re: sudden performance fail on my PC
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bad memory on the graphics card? :?: (no idea how you would test for that specifically)

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Changed any hardware recently? New gfx card perhaps? Check your PSU, mobo, gfx card. Look at disk space, running processes.

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 Post subject: Re: sudden performance fail on my PC
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is it a power saving / profile .....??

this may be your CPU overclocking (check amd cool n quiet)....BIOS perhaps (mine is)

or Even your GPU underclocking, and then when starting a game clocking up to factory speed (power saving)... check nvidia profile manager (nvidia driver tools)


if its none of them

do you have any proggies like tune up utilities, scanners etc that are doing scheduled maintenance...?

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 Post subject: Re: sudden performance fail on my PC
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If on wireless check to see if Eunhey (spelling prob wrong but can never remember how to spell your GF's name) isn't dl'n stuff or running around Ultima Online or something.
Aso check to see that no one is leaching on your wireless - just go into router control panel and look for connected devices.

Do virus and spyware scans in safe mode (hit F8 on start up).

Defrag hard drive (start>All Programs>Accessories>System Tools)

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 Post subject: Re: sudden performance fail on my PC
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if nvidia, did you put on the 'new' drivers?

some people i know are having probs with them :?

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 Post subject: Re: sudden performance fail on my PC
 Post Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 9:42 am 
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Thanks for all your help, much appreciated. :smile:

Unfortunately I haven't been able to sort this yet. :? I did rediscover 'reading' for a day or two, but bugger that ...I want to blow things up! lol :pirate:

- machine is not overclocked (that I know of, so i assume no)
- I checked those core temps, and there was no dramatic rise when gaming (4 - 6 degrees c) I guess that is ok (?).
- I did do a virus scan, nothing but a few cookies, not to say there isn't one though. My anti-virus expires in 2 days, so need a new one.
- I updated drivers after this started, no change.
- system restore didn't solve it
- don't know how to check graphics card memory either
- upped power profile from balanced to high performance, no change
- I don't think it is a routine maintanance thing as it happens at almost exactly the same instance everytime after starting the game (1 - 2 minutes) - at least it doesn't seem so to me.
- love to blame my gf, but it happens when she tucked up in bed.
- my modem mysteriously died this am, bought a new combined router/modem - that didn't fix it :mrgreen:

I took a pic of task manager a few seconds after going in and out of cod4. Looks bad to me. hmmm...

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I don't know if providing my system specs help. The only thing 'significant' I can think of, that i did before this happened, was copy the main game folder of IL2 sturmovik (to switch between a modded version) and moved them here and there. Have no clue if this means anything, was just a lot of gigs going to and fro for a while.

:roll: :? :scratch:

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 Post subject: Re: sudden performance fail on my PC
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is your windows HD nearly full

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 Post subject: Re: sudden performance fail on my PC
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post a screenie of running processes in task manager, in fact do two
one idle, the other ingame

those cpu spikes dont look too bad to me, especially if you're gaming

is your graphics card seated correctly?
perhaps even change the power lead to the graphics card

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 Post subject: Re: sudden performance fail on my PC
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I've got it! I see what your problem is!!

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....you're running Vista :thumbd:

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 Post subject: Re: sudden performance fail on my PC
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:cheers: wahaay :cheers:

....fixed it.

Thanks for all your suggestions. Was a mare, but I learned a lot.

Turned out it was a cooling fan after all. I said I'd checked them, but not thoroughly enough it would appear. Pulled side panel off, gave it a good hoover inside. Just poking around in there noticed one of the graphics card fans was a bit stiff on the turn. Took it apart and added some sewing machine oil, and now I have non-stalling gaming. :thumbl:

I took a pic because i thought i would have to remember the part number. Not that it's in focus - pen n paper ftw. :|

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